Is Lyric a good match for Gibson L00 guitar (or similar small guitar body)?

[JR Strings]

Hi all,

I'm a new forum member. I'm considering the Lyric microphone pickup for my Gibson L00 'copy' (made by luthier Aaron Morris). Keen to here if anyone has experience using Lyric in a Gibson L00 or guitar of similar small body style. Any recommendations on placement of the lyric in this body shape would also be welcome.

Thanks!

[Caleb_Elling]

Hey JR Strings,
We have had some pretty good success with the Lyric in smaller bodied guitars. They usually require a modified mic placement, but if you can dial that in it usually works great.

Check out my installation notes for this Parlor guitar I worked on a while back. The same principals should apply to the L00. http://www.lrbaggs.com/forum/showthr...allation+notes

[JR Strings]

Hey JR Strings,
We have had some pretty good success with the Lyric in smaller bodied guitars. They usually require a modified mic placement, but if you can dial that in it usually works great.

Check out my installation notes for this Parlor guitar I worked on a while back. The same principals should apply to the L00. http://www.lrbaggs.com/forum/showthr...allation+notes

Thanks Caleb for this feedback (no pun intended) and the link to the solution you reached on the RedLine Parlor. Other than trying different placements on the top, have you ever experimented with installing the Lyric with a shim between the top and the Lyric (or between bridge plate and Lyric) to get the mic slightly off the wood? If yes, what results have you noticed?

One more question...I am new to the art of EQ. Only EQ control I have now is on the AER Compact 60/3. Is there a systematic approach you'd recommend to problem-solving Lyric sounds with LR baggs para-DI vs. venue DI?

JR

[Caleb_Elling]

The mic is designed to work the most effectively at the distance that it is from the soundboard. If you add height to the mic, the reflections in the guitar may start to sound boxier and more upfront. So I would leave the mic at the predesignated height.

As far as EQ goes, my preferred method is to "ring out" the guitar. That is commonly done by taking your mid eq (to start), and turning it up to 3-4 o'clock. Then you can take the KHZ or frequency selection (Para DI has one band, the Venue has a Hi and a Low mid), and sweep it up and down to find the most offensive frequency. Once you land on a particularly nasty frequency, you can then take your mid EQ and cut it down to the desired level (10-11 o'clock to be conservative). If it's not having the desired effect on your tone, you can start over and try to find another problem frequency. Using that method in conjunction with some trial and error with the fixed EQ's (Bass, Treble, Presence), you should be able to dial in a pretty solid tone.

Subtractive EQ usually sounds more pleasant to the ear compared to additive EQ. Although adding warmth or clarity, in moderation, can also sound really good sometimes.

[JR Strings]

The mic is designed to work the most effectively at the distance that it is from the soundboard. If you add height to the mic, the reflections in the guitar may start to sound boxier and more upfront. So I would leave the mic at the predesignated height.

As far as EQ goes, my preferred method is to "ring out" the guitar. That is commonly done by taking your mid eq (to start), and turning it up to 3-4 o'clock. Then you can take the KHZ or frequency selection (Para DI has one band, the Venue has a Hi and a Low mid), and sweep it up and down to find the most offensive frequency. Once you land on a particularly nasty frequency, you can then take your mid EQ and cut it down to the desired level (10-11 o'clock to be conservative). If it's not having the desired effect on your tone, you can start over and try to find another problem frequency. Using that method in conjunction with some trial and error with the fixed EQ's (Bass, Treble, Presence), you should be able to dial in a pretty solid tone.

Subtractive EQ usually sounds more pleasant to the ear compared to additive EQ. Although adding warmth or clarity, in moderation, can also sound really good sometimes.

Very helpful notes Caleb. Thanks!

Jason