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    Okay, so I am running the Session with the Venue. The Session by itself is good. Combining it with a little extra EQ is better. Does it matter what order I put them in my signal chain. There are no other effects. It's either guitar>Venue>Session, or it's Guitar>Session>Venue. Does it make a difference?

  • #2
    Hey Vancebo,
    That's a really good question. The order that you put your boxes in will make a difference in how they interact with each other. So it is something to consider.

    In studio or live mixing, you can usually use EQ before or after compression to get a different effect. You can use EQ first to cut out specific frequencies or add others in that may be lacking. If you go into your multi-band compression after that, depending on your EQ settings, the compression might not need to work as hard. The compression should still be able to smooth out the tone though. In this setup, you may need to set a lower input gain on the Session to allow for any additional volume boost coming from the Venue's Boost switch. However, a lower gain setting on the Session will change the way that the Comp and Saturation interact with the incoming signal.

    If you go into the Session first, which is what I prefer, you can get the Session gain optimized for the Saturation and Comp to get the most out of those features. Then you can go into the Venue, adjusting the EQ to fine-tune your overall sound.

    So there isn't an absolute answer. I usually recommend trying both to see what you like better.

    I hope that helps.

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    • #3
      Totally makes sense. Thank You.

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      • #4
        Notch filter

        Originally posted by Vancebo View Post
        Totally makes sense. Thank You.
        If you have the session first and the venue Di second , which One should you apply the notch filter on when needed ?

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        • #5
          I would probably use the Notch on whichever unit you have first in the chain. Although, I doubt that you would notice a difference either way.

          That's just me though.

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          • #6
            Thanks you ,

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Caleb_Elling View Post
              I would probably use the Notch on whichever unit you have first in the chain. Although, I doubt that you would notice a difference either way.

              That's just me though.
              Notch filter worked perfect . I had the session Di first and the venue second . I was able to use the Notch filter on Either one 👍

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              • #8
                Venue DI with Session DI

                I am new here & just caught this thread.

                I recently purchased the Venue DI & couldn't be happier with results. Sounds so good on 3 amps I have tested with 4 guitars, all very different.

                I am now considering an addition of the Session DI unit and this conversation regarding the order sequence in the chain. It seems the Session [I]Following[I] the Venue patches out the 'Boost' function on the Venue. My question: Why would it not make sense to patch the Session unit through the effects loop of the Venue unit?

                Has anyone tried this configuration?

                Thanks to any replies.
                "Gort: Klaatu Barada Nicto"

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                • #9
                  Hey Bizybodi,
                  I haven't tried the Session in the FX loop myself. However, I have talked with a few people who have and they prefer it over the other ways of routing it.

                  I like to test each way of doing things with my gear, so I'll have to add that to my list of things to try.

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                  • #10
                    Venue with Session

                    Yes, I would appreciate that feedback.

                    Searching threads I have found reports of Before or After; but not with the Effects Loop.

                    To me that makes the best sense to retain the 'Boost' feature without over driving the input of the Session when following the Venue. Putting the Session first seems "out-of-sequence" from the way the saturation effect & multi-band comp is configured in the post-production process. *(Of course you have to go with what sounds best in a live situation).

                    I haven't bought the Session.....yet; but I think I am arguing myself into it. (...looking into my wallet)
                    "Gort: Klaatu Barada Nicto"

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                    • #11
                      Venue w/Session thru EffectsLoop

                      P.S. It just occurred to me that with the Session thru the Effects Loop both D.I.'s would match & you could run that into the mix console on two channels panned hard Left & Right to give a 'psuedo' stereo into the P.A. *(if you run it in stereo that is).

                      You cannot do this if the order is configured sequentially.
                      Last edited by Bizybodi; 03-21-2016, 01:50 PM.
                      "Gort: Klaatu Barada Nicto"

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                      • #12
                        If I get a chance this week, I'll try it and post my thoughts.

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                        • #13
                          Session HPF (High Pass Filter)

                          Originally posted by Caleb_Elling View Post
                          I would probably use the Notch on whichever unit you have first in the chain. Although, I doubt that you would notice a difference either way.

                          That's just me though.


                          I forgot to ask. On the Session DI . How do I use the High Pass Filter, or what setting is best?

                          Thanks,

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                          • #14
                            Well... with everything, it all depends on what you need. I usually leave my HPF off when playing solo, and sometimes at the 80Hz position if I play with a band and a bass player. I personally don't use the higher positions, but some people like to cut out a lot of low end from their guitars so that the rest of the band has more "space" in the mix.

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                            • #15
                              two boxes?

                              Hi folks, I have an M1A and am looking to get better control over the signal before sending it to my acoustic amp. I have read about the 'Venue' and the 'Session' units but I am confused as to why there are two. I see you folks are discussing using both boxes so, the obvious question, is there not a single unit which does the job of both?

                              Cheers.

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