Preset for Expression System 2

[paulkent]

Hi - Is there a factory pre-set for Taylor's Expression System 2. My main interest in Voiceprint is helping to get better live sounds out of my 914ce - which I love the feel and non amplified sound from. Thanks! Looks like a cool product.

[Caleb_Elling]

Hey Paul,
The Voiceprint DI doesn't come with any presets for general guitars or pickups. Setting up a Voiceprint for your guitar and your pickup will allow the natural acoustic sound of your guitar to come through with whatever pickup you have. The Voiceprint only takes about 2 minutes to set up.

We've done a number of tests with the ES and ES2, and the Voiceprint has really worked well so far.

[paulkent]

Thanks, Caleb. I'll give it a try. Best of luck with this exciting new product.

[Phousman]

The VPDI has made a remarkable difference with my Taylor 912ce 12 Fret with Expression System 2. It now sounds great plugged into the PA.

[Caleb_Elling]

That is great to hear! Thanks for sharing!

[Sacredground]

I too love my 914 unplugged, but disliked the amplified sound...a lot. Without an ES2 preset there’s still a very powerful custom EQ. I found this to be perfect for dialing in a very pleasing amplified tone.

[Gantt Kushner]

any suggestions for the tone settings on the Taylor preamp?

[discokvn]

i leave everything in the center on the Taylor preamp, i make the eq with the VPDI app to create the sound, but i will say it took me a few tries to create a voiceprint i was satisfied with, very grateful to Caleb for his guidance.

[Marty C]

Any updates/experience on using the VPDI with the ES-2? I have 814ce DLX, v-brace. I like the plugged in sound, but could use a little bit more control and natural sound. Depending on the system I plug into and the volume I use, it can be brittle at times. Especially the B and E strings.

I don't yet own the VPDI, but thinking about purchasing one this week.

[Guitarune]

Any updates/experience on using the VPDI with the ES-2? I have 814ce DLX, v-brace. I like the plugged in sound, but could use a little bit more control and natural sound. Depending on the system I plug into and the volume I use, it can be brittle at times. Especially the B and E strings.

I don't yet own the VPDI, but thinking about purchasing one this week.

I'm using the VPDI with Taylor ES2. Works very well.

Make lots of voiceprints, placing the phone in different spots etc. Then chose whichever VP makes the best starting point afterwards (Everebody should have a little looper pedal just for this! Press play and tune your VP's).

[Marty C]

I'm using the VPDI with Taylor ES2. Works very well.



Make lots of voiceprints, placing the phone in different spots etc. Then chose whichever VP makes the best starting point afterwards (Everebody should have a little looper pedal just for this! Press play and tune your VP's).

Thanks for you reply and the advice. I do have a looper and will try using this for fine tuning. I guess I will order and give this a trial.

[Marty C]

Okay, my voiceprint arrived today and I started making voiceprints. When I start by looking at the VU meter, I can't get a very strong signal with my ES2 pickup, even with the volume set full. Should the mic and and pickup read similar strength on the VU readings?

[Caleb_Elling]

Okay, my voiceprint arrived today and I started making voiceprints. When I start by looking at the VU meter, I can't get a very strong signal with my ES2 pickup, even with the volume set full. Should the mic and and pickup read similar strength on the VU readings?

No, the levels between the mic and pickup don't need to match. They're just a reference point to make sure you're getting a signal. The mic level will almost always be louder, unless you have a hot pickup signal that needs to be attenuated.

You should be good to go.

[Marty C]

Created some new voiceprints using my para di in the signal path. I set everything flat and used the para di only to boost the signal. The VP came out way better, needing very little EQ. I know you mentioned the pick up level does not need to match the mic level, but it must need to have a little stronger signal than I was giving it.

Also, on the original VP i created, I needed to set the volume levels high and it brought lots of "hiss" to the Bose S1. Kind of similar to having the gain too low on a mixer and then needing to compensate by adding volume at the master out.

Does this make sense? I don't want to post information that might lead others down the wrong path. I only tried this because I have some stock UST pickups in some lower end Martin and Epiphone guitars and their VP came out way better than I was getting with my Taylor.

That EQ in the app is awesome!

[Guitarune]

It's strange that you have such a low signal from the ES2. My Taylor with ES2 is just about exactly the same level as the phone mic, in the app.

Regarding level/hiss. Rather than raising the master output, you should raise the level of the preset and/or voiceprint. That shouldn't add any noise.