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    Hey all,
    There have been a few issues today where posts have been deleted. This has not been on purpose and I am looking into the cause. I'm so sorry for the confusion and inconvenience.

    The conversation regarding muddy or tubby Voiceprints was unfortunately removed and cannot be restored. I feel like this is a very important conversation right now, so for anyone who was involved in the conversation, please keep it going here or elsewhere, if possible.

  • #2
    I’m one who is experiencing tubby sounding voiceprints. no matter what I do. Lots of lows and low-mids.

    Things I have tried:

    - Placing the phone 8“, 10”, 12” & 16” inches from the 16th fret
    - Pointing it closer to the 12th fret
    - Turning the phone so it so its parallel to the guitar about 10” out at the 16th fret.
    - Took my case off phone in case that made a difference.
    - Moved phone up and down rather than directly in plane with the soundhole.
    - Reset pedal and re-install app.

    I am not unfamiliar with recording and mic placement.

    I have an older iPhone that I might try next. After that, I’m out of ideas.

    The amazing thing is that the EQ is so extensive and powerful, that I can take a super tubby sounding voiceprint and turn it into something that sounds pretty great. It takes some fairly extreme EQ and is reason enough to want Separate EQ for the voiceprint along with the overall EQ.

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    • #3
      For anyone else reading, I had mentioned checking the mic ports to make sure that they don't have any pocket lint trapped in them. We found that lint caused some phones to lose high-end response, which ultimately made the VPs sound dark and bassy.

      Aaron, I ran this by Lloyd who mentioned that he also had the same experience with dark/tubby VPs. For him, playing more softly and specifically tapping more softly (during the tapping step) when making the VP made a big difference. I haven't experienced this myself, but I am going to take a DI home for the weekend to see what I can try to reproduce.

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      • #4
        Caleb - good call on checking for lint. I did check that and that wasn’t the issue for me.

        Playing softly and tapping softly is what I’ll try next.
        I definitely tapped on the bridge pretty loud/hard and played at full volume when making the voiceprints.

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        • #5
          [QUOTE=aaronmarkson;n9532]I definitely tapped on the bridge pretty loud/hard and played at full volume when making the voiceprints.[/QUOTE]

          Ok, playing softer might do the trick. Let us know how it goes.

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          • #6
            I tried making a new voiceprint tapping and playing softly. It was better. Not perfect, but with eq would be good. Unfortunately, something happened. After I made this new VP, I deleted some old ones and moved the new ones, all in the app. And now I get nothing coming through. No matter if it is bypassed or not. No signal is passing through. I unplugged everything and restarted the app. Still nothing. I didn’t try a factory reset and fresh install of the app. Will try that next week.
            Last edited by aaronmarkson; 12-23-2020, 07:22 PM.

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            • #7
              [QUOTE=aaronmarkson;n9570]I tried making a new voiceprint tapping and playing softly. It was better. Not perfect, but with eq would be good. Unfortunately, something happened. After I made this new VP, I deleted some old ones and moved the new ones, all in the app. And now I get nothing coming through. No matter if it is bypassed or not. No signal is passing through. I unplugged everything and restarted the app. Still nothing. I didn’t try a factory reset and fresh install of the app. Will try that next week.[/QUOTE]

              What you're experiencing is something that 2-3 other people have run into. We should be releasing an app update this week that will solve the issue entirely. You may still need to reset the pedal though. The issue happens when preset data is corrupted when moving presets around. The update is going through some final tests today and should be approved for release.

              Sorry about that.

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              • #8
                Caleb - Any update on the release of the app update?

                I did have to reset the pedal and it's working again.

                I made some new voiceprints after the reset. They are still quite muddy / tubby sounding. Once again - slightly better if I play with a light touch.

                For kicks, I tried using an old iPhone 6s and I got the same or similar results. It is strange. I have no problem recording these guitars without them being boomy.

                I am going to try making a voiceprint using an external mic at some point and see what that is like. I need some additional equipment first.

                While it is frustrating, I am not giving up. If anything, it highlights the EQ section and how much can be done with it.

                I am very much looking forward to the update as well as the advanced toolkit to be able to eq the Voiceprint separate from the preset. It will take a little work, but I think this will allow for a really good result even if the voiceprints start out with all that low and low mid accentuation. I personally don't mind doing the work on the front end and then saving the presets to be used with no or minimal tweaking after that. That may not be the case for others. This also seems to be happening to only some users.

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                • #9
                  Hey Aaron,
                  I actually just got word that we submitted the update to Apple today. So it should come through the App store by tonight or early tomorrow. That should fix all of the known-issues with the dead Voiceprints/presets.

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