Creating Acoustic 'amp in a room' inside a DAW

[Vajranatha]

Experts of Sound:
With an electric guitar, recording into a DAW, players with often simulate the sound of an electric guitar and its amp 'in a room' by recording into a DAW with a CAB simulator placed in a room with the reverb of ones desire.
It would seem ideal, actually [I]even more desirable[/I], to create a similar environment with an acoustic guitar. Has anyone tried this who can offer advice?
I am using a PreSonus interface into Logic Pro. [B]I'm assuming I should just find an acoustic amp and then place an acoustic-style reverb, probably Space Designer in a Warm, small room?[/B]
Any ideas and advice?
The overriding idea here is to develop tools, using the VPDI, to recreate the sound and ambiance of an acoustic guitar, miked in a small room, but by recording [B]direct[/B] into a DAW. Will experiment with different rooms.
What are the different setups? Pitfalls? Sound convincing?
Warm Regards,
Vaj
Bucksport, Maine

[Caleb_Elling]

Hey Vaj,
Thanks for posting.

This is definitely an interesting idea. I think that most electric players rely so heavily on the amp's tone that replicating the amp in a room is essential to getting a good recorded tone. On the other side of things, most acoustic players are typically trying to replicate the guitar's unplugged tone in a room, rather than the qualities through an amp.

For me, I prefer to either mic my guitar in an isolated space or use a good pickup for my acoustic recordings. The Voiceprint DI definitely makes that easier than ever to get an isolated recording in smaller spaces.

Once I get my recording down, it's pretty easy to add a good room reverb to emulate the acoustic space of my choosing.

That's just my typical approach at least.

[Vajranatha]

Much simpler. Thanks, good insight!

[Vajranatha]

[QUOTE=Caleb_Elling;n10565]Hey Vaj,
Thanks for posting.

This is definitely an interesting idea. I think that most electric players rely so heavily on the amp's tone that replicating the amp in a room is essential to getting a good recorded tone. On the other side of things, most acoustic players are typically trying to replicate the guitar's unplugged tone in a room, rather than the qualities through an amp.

For me, I prefer to either mic my guitar in an isolated space or use a good pickup for my acoustic recordings. The Voiceprint DI definitely makes that easier than ever to get an isolated recording in smaller spaces.
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As a hybrid idea, our ideas can be combined, at least in Logic, by using Space Designer as a refined, tailored style of ‘natural room reverb’.

For example, if one liked the room reverb of a specific room space, one can ‘model it’ by creating an Impulse Response of the space in question - whether it be Carnegie Hall or your Tiled HS Bathroom - then apply it to the guitar track or the entire project. Of course, Logic provides a long list of it’s own preset acoustic spaces which work just as well.

Works great! What acoustic space would you play? LOL.

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Vaj B.

[Caleb_Elling]

I've only used my DAWs IR reverb a couple of times, but I've been wanting to use it more. I've heard a few reverbs from old European cathedrals and churches that just sound amazing!